My Lord and My God !!

Sami Zaatari

One of the most common passages that Trinitarians use in trying to prove that Jesus was God, comes from John 20:28, And in this passage the disciple Thomas supposedly says the following:

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God (John 20:28)

So from this passage Christians conclude that Jesus must be God because Thomas called Jesus his Lord and God. On top of this they assert that the immediate context following John 20:28 shows that Jesus did not rebuke Thomas for his confession, rather Jesus accepted the confession, and blessed Thomas. From this they reason that if Jesus was not God, then he would have rebuked Thomas and corrected, however so he did no such thing therefore they assert that Jesus must be God.

For starters anyone who reads the Gospels in context will see that they clearly show that Jesus was not God, rather he was a prophet, and a Messiah. Furthermore on top of this, nowhere in the Gospels do any believers take Jesus as God, rather the believers always take Jesus to be a prophet, and Messiah.

So with all of that said let us now turn our attention to John 20:28, for the sake of convenience I re-quote the passage:

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God (John 20:28)

As you all know, the Gospel of John was written in Greek, and when one consults the Greek language one will notice that the words for Lord and God are called KYRIOS and THEOS. So here is the passage quoted again, only this time the actual Greek words are placed in brackets right beside the English translation, and we read:

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord (KYRIOS) and my God (GOD)

 (John 20:28)

So doubting Thomas calls Jesus his KYRIOS and THEOS. Now if anyone has studied the New Testament, as well as the Septuagint, which is basically the Greek version of the Jewish Bible, then one will find out that these exact words are not exclusive for God alone, and that these two terms are applied to many men.

Strong’s own Greek lexicon defines the Word KYRIOS as follows:

is a title of honor expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants greet their master

So one of the definitions of the term KYRIOS is a title of honor and respect, specifically a title of honor and respect given to a master by the servant. As we all know Jesus was a leader, he was the Messiah, a prophet, a judge, and the leader of his 12 disciples. Hence it would be no surprise for one of his disciple to call him KYRIOS, in fact this is what we would expect, and this indeed what we get.

So the fact is this, the term KYRIOS is not an exclusive Greek word to identify the almighty God. Furthermore as I said above, the term KYRIOS is used of other men besides Jesus, hence are we going to now claim that all of those who are called Lord must be God? Of course not.

Now let us move on to the word THEOS, Strong’s lexicon translates the word THEOS a follows:

-God’s representatives or vice-regents

-Magistrates and Judges

So again even the term THEOS does not exclusively have to refer to the almighty God, rather God’s representatives can also be called THEOS, and the same applies for judges and magistrates. As we all know Jesus was God’s representative, he was God’s prophet, as well as his Messiah, so indeed Jesus was God’s representative, and in that sense one can call Jesus a THEOS.

So the fact is this, Thomas calling Jesus his KYRIOS and THEOS in no absolute way means he was calling Jesus his almighty God.

Throughout the Gospels Jesus always identifies himself as a prophet, a messiah, and the Son of God. Each one of these titles do not denote divinity, hence we can confidently say that when Jesus was called KYRIOS and THEOS it was not a reference to any divinity, but a reference to his honorable position as a leader, and as a prophet.

Moving on, if one reads the Greek Bible one will learn that many people are called THEOS, the devil himself is called THEOS in 2nd Corinthians 4:4, we read:

In whom the god (THEOS) of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not

So the devil himself is called THEOS, should we all bow and worship Satan now? Obviously not! On top of this Moses himself is called a THEOS, and so are the Jewish judges found in the book of Psalms. Yet nobody is going to claim that these people are the almighty true God, and that we should start worshiping them!

So the simple fact is this, in no shape or form is Jesus the almighty God for being called KYRIOS and THEOS. We know from the context of the four Gospels that in no way do these terms refer to a divinity; rather they refer to his prophet hood, and him being The Messiah.

And Allah Truly Knows Best!

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Jesus said:”I and My Father are One”..Why do Christians quote this verse?

By Sami Zaatari

Often when debates come up with Christians on the divinity of Christ, the passage from chapter ten in the book of John comes up; this passage is verse 30, which basically reads:

 

30 I and my Father are one

 Now I don’t understand why many Christians would quote this verse, specifically Trinitarians, because what does this verse prove? Trinitarians do not believe Jesus is the Father, so why do they quote it? Are they quoting it to try and show that Jesus is equal to the Father? Well that isn’t true, since the Gospel of John shows the opposite, in fact if we quote one verse back we read:

 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.

This is verse 29, it comes right before verse 30, and in verse 29 Jesus says the Father is greater than ALL, this obviously includes Jesus since he is not the Father. So therefore how Christians try and assume that this verse shows equality between Jesus and the Father is beyond me.

 In fact this is not the first time that Jesus says the Father is greater than him, he does it again later:

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I (John 14:28)

So here we once again have Jesus claiming the Father is greater than him, so how is Jesus equal to the Father when Jesus says the contrary? Now Christians have come up with a way of trying to explain this verse off, they say that Jesus was talking as a man here, that as a man the Father is greater than him, they try and say that the Father meant he is greater than Jesus in rank and authority and not in essence.

However so what did Jesus mean in John 10 when Jesus said the Father is greater than ALL? Jesus placed himself in the category of ALL people, so therefore the Christian response will not work for John 10:29. It must be said though that the Christian response does not work for John chapter 14:28 neither, because the Christian argues from silence and is arguing something they have yet to prove. Christians cannot prove that Jesus has 2 natures, they can never get a single quote from the lips of Jesus saying I am man and Divine, that I have 2 natures and I gave one up and took on the man nature, this is non-existent, so therefore the response is from silence provided with no proof or a solid basis.

 1-The fact is that the Bible shows that the Father is greater than Jesus in essence, the Father is all-knowing and Jesus is not.

 2-The Father gives Jesus everything from miracle to doctrine.

 3-Jesus begs the Father to save him, obviously showing that life and death is controlled by the Father and NOT Jesus. 

 For all these arguments the Christian will say as man Jesus is not all-knowing, as man Jesus receives things from the Father, however so I will kindly ask the Christian bring this proof from the words of Jesus, they shall never be able to do it, this doctrine is an invention and not something to be found from Jesus.

So therefore in conclusion, John 10:30 proves nothing in support of the divinity of Jesus, it does not show equality, since Jesus made it clear that the Father is greater than him, so therefore Jesus is not equal with the Father.

And Jesus was a prophet of God and Allah knows Best!

Muhammad in the Bible !!

“And if you (Muhammad) are in doubt concerning that which We have revealed unto you, then ask those who read the Scripture (that was) before you. Verily the Truth has come unto you from your Lord, so do not be among those who waver.” (The noble Qur’an 10:94)

In the Bible we can find the following passages where Jesus (peace be upon him) predicts a great event:


John 14:16 “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you ANOTHER Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever”


John 16:7-14 “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; BUT if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you.”
 
 
 

This prophecy clearly lays down that:

-The Comforter will come after the departure of Jesus.

-When the Comforter comes, he will reprove the world of sin, truth and justice.

-He will guide the world into all truth.

-he will not speak of himself.

-He will foretell things to come.

– That he will stay with you forever.

-He will glorify Jesus and clear him of all charges.

 

Now when we take this prophecy point by point, it is unmistakably proven that it applies to none else but the Prophet Muhammad. Let us see:

-Muhammed came after the departure of Jesus.

– Muhammed did guide us into the truth; to worship God Alone and submit yourself to the will of God, Muhammed DID change the people from paganism to monotheism !!

Allah Almighty says : “O mankind! The messenger (Muhammad) hath come unto you with the truth from your Lord. Therefore believe; (it is) better for you” (The noble Qur’an, 4:120)

-He didn’t speak of himself, the Quran is nothing but the word of God from beginning to end, not a single word even of the Prophet is to be found in it.

Nor does he (Muhammad) speak of his own desire. It is but an Inspiration that is inspired [unto him]” (The noble Qur’an, 53:3-4)
 

-That he may abide with you forever.

“Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the SEAL of the Prophets; and Allah is Aware of all things.” (The noble Qur’an, 33:40)

And “This day have I (God) perfected your religion for you (mankind) and completed My favor unto you, and have chosen for you as religion Islam(the submission).” (The noble Qur’an 5:3)

So the religion of Islam is the last message to mankind and it, as well as the Qur’an, will abide with us FOREVER.

The verse “that he may abide with you for ever”, it doesn’t mean that the comforter will live with us forever and he  won’t die, because this is impossible, but Muhammad (peace be upon him) will abide and live with us through his teachings, and his quotations that recorded from him during his lifetime in a broad range of topics.

 To this day, whenever a Muslims wishes to perform any action no matter how trivial, he does not advance a single step before first consulting Allah (in the Qur’an), and then prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) (in the Hadith).

It also means that he will stay with us forever that no one will come after him saying “I’m a prophet sent from God, so believe in me” because the message of the comforter will be the last message, that why Jesus said “he may abide with you FOR EVER

 

-He will show you things to come.

Here is some of Muhammad’s prophecies:

1\Disappearance of trustworthiness, so much so that one would only be able to say: “I know a trustworthy person in such-and-such town.”

2\ The increase in killing, so that the one who kills does not know why he killed, and the one killed does not know why he was killed.

3\ The increase of the use of usury/interest so that no one will able to escape being tainted by it. This clearly the state of the world economy today.

5\The decrease of religious knowledge due to the disappearance of scholars.

6\The increase of sexual promiscuity, and new diseases that people had not heard of before spreading amongst them as a consequence of that. This is clear, with the arrival of AIDS, and other previously unheard of viruses.

7\Nakedness of women while still being dressed and people copulating like donkeys in public.

8\The drinking of wine becoming common.

9\ The worst and most ignorant will become leaders and they will be oppressors.

10\ A man will obey his wife and disobey his mother, and treat his friends kindly and shun his father.

 

-Muhammed did glorify Jesus .

-“Behold! the angels said “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ (Maseeh) Jesus the son of Mary held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.( Qur’an 3:45-51)

 

Conclusion:

 Muhammad (peace be upon him), as seen, did indeed fulfill this prophesy.

 

Some people will argue back by saying that the Spirit of truth is not Muhammed but it is  the Holy Spirit?!  Is that true?! well, let us look at it :

 

The comforter/the spirit of truth  cannot be the Holy spirit because:


 First: the Holy spirit (according to the Bible) was “with” them already (and even quite active) long before the coming of Jesus (peace be upon him) himself and then throughout his ministry. Read for example:
 
“Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?” (Isaiah 63:11)
 

Did they or did they not already receive the Holy spirit?!

Was Jesus (peace be upon him) not still with them when they received the Holy spirit ?!

Was the Holy spirit not with Simeon, Mary, Elisabeth and Zacharias before the birth of Jesus (peace be upon him)?!

Was the Holy spirit not with Moses (peace be upon him) when he parted the seas?!

 

Second, Does the Holy Spirit “speak” ?! of course not, but the verse says that the comforter must hear then speak …

”he shall hear, [that] shall he speak” .. so this is obviously not the holy spirit .

There is a distinct difference between someone “inspiring” something and him “speaking” something.

 

Third, Jesus said ”another comforter” .. The word “another” is significant. if we assumed that the comforter is the holy spirit ?! why did Jesus say ANOTHER ?! how many Holy spirits are there?

 

Fourth, Jesus peace be upon will never refer to the holy spirit by using the pronoun “He”, but he will say “it”.

 

 

I bear witness that there’s no deity worthy to be worshipped but Allah, and Muhammed is his last messenger.

 

 

And Allah knows best …