The Beliefs of Christians is Similar to that of the Pagans according to Saint Justin Martyr

By Sami Zaatari


It has always been made clear that several and most of what Christians believe in such as the crucifixion of a savior, the unique son of God, are all just borrowed doctrines and terms from other pagan religions before Christianity. The evidence is there for all to see, however so, Christians always like to ignore this fact and simply act like they don’t know about it. Since Christians will not accept the fact that most of their beliefs come from paganism, doubting the information they read since they do not trust it, I shall say fine, let us play that game.

What I will do in this article is simple quote a Christian church Father and a Saint, this Saint happens to be Justin Martyr, The fact that this man has been given the title of Saint by Christians tells us that he is a very high and respected figure within Christianity.

Here is some information regarding Justin Martyr incase there are some Christians out there saying Justin Martyr is a nobody:

Christian apologist, born at Flavia Neapolis, about A.D. 100, converted to Christianity about A.D. 130, taught and defended the Christian religion in Asia Minor and at Rome, where he suffered martyrdom about the year 165. Two “Apologies” bearing his name and his “Dialogue with the Jew Tryphon” have come down to us. Leo XIII had a Mass and an Office composed in his honour and set his feast for 14 April.

For a full bio of Justin visit this link:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08580c.htm

All his work alongside many other Church Fathers and Saints can be found on this link:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/

It is from one of his works that I shall be quoting from; the piece that I quote from is called ?The First Apology’.

With all this said, I shall now quote the relevant information from this Saint of Christianity:

CHAPTER XXI — ANALOGIES TO THE HISTORY OF CHRIST.

And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound NOTHING DIFFERENT from WHAT YOU BELIEVE regarding those whom you esteem sons of JupiterFor you know how many sons your esteemed writers ascribed to Jupiter: Mercury, the interpreting word and teacher of all;AEsculapius, who, though he was a great physician, was struck by a thunderbolt, and so ascended to heaven; and Bacchus too, after he had been torn limb from limb; and Hercules, when he had committed himself to the flames to escape his toils; and the sons of Leda, and Dioscuri; andPerseus, son of Danae; and Bellerophon, who, though sprung from mortals, rose to heaven on the horse PegasusFor what shall I say of Ariadne, and those who, like her, have been declared to be set among the stars? And what of the emperors who die among yourselves, whom you deem worthy of deification, and in whose behalf you produce some one who swears he has seen the burning Caesar rise to heaven from the funeral pyre? And what kind of deeds are recorded of each of these reputed sons of Jupiter, it is needless to tell to those who already know. (Justin Martyrs First Apology:http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0126.htm)

 

Notice what this man is saying, he is telling the Roman rulers that what the Christians believe in is nothing different than what the Roman pagans believe in, that Jupiter who is one of their gods also had sons, making them sons of god. Justin then goes on to mention other beliefs of these Roman pagans of people ascending into heaven just like Jesus did etc.

So if this is not enough prove that the Christian belief system is the same as the pagan beliefs then I don’t know what is! This Christian saint is saying it in plane words that what the Christians BELIEVE IN IS NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE ROMAN PAGANS BELIEVE IN, how much more clearly do you want it to be?!

This all proves that the Christian faith of Paul was simply another branch of paganism that popped out, the only difference is that Paul claimed it was from the true God and other forms of paganism was wrong. Paul borrowed all his beliefs from pagan religions that were around him, and centered it all on Jesus, and then he had the audacity to say the other pagans are wrong when he plagiarized their belief! What makes this all the more worst for the Christian faith is that Paul also destroyed the Jewish law given by God to Moses!

So Paul destroys God’s true law given to Moses, making it into nothing, and replaces it by pagan beliefs claiming that this is the true way! He has managed to fool up to a billion people into believing they believe in a true faith of God, when in fact they believe in paganism and that the true law from God is actually made into nothing and thrown away! The Jews living at the time of Paul were not dumb, they knew that Paul was destroying the Torah, which is exactly why they did not like him, however so the pagans loved Paul so his form of pagan Christianity succeeded and this is what you have today.

But no need to worry, Islam has come to abolish ALL forms of paganism including this one created by the anti-Christ Paul.

And Allah Knows Best

Advertisements

Why Did The Jews Accuse Jesus of Blasphemy?!

One argument often raised by Christians in order to try and prove the deity of Christ is that they say that the Jews accused Jesus of committing blasphemy. However, I am here to argue that the Jews misunderstood them and that Jesus never did commit blasphemy. We will also examine the real reason why the Jews accused Jesus of blasphemy. 

Here is one passage in which the Jews accuse Jesus of committing blasphemy..

John 10:31-39

31 Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” 33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” ‘? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” 39 Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.

Jesus over here is rebuking the Jews for how they don’t understand scripture. Jesus then says in verse 37 that if he does the works of the Father (obviously because nothing he does is of his own authority (John 5:30) and he is doing what God is commanding) then they should believe that he is God’s son (son of God in the sense that he is serving God) and that they will know that the Father is in him and that he is in the Father (this shows oneness of purpose, see similar examples in John 17:21).

Jesus told them the real reason why they wanted to kill him…

John 8:37-40

37 I know you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father. [c]” 39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered. If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would [d] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a MAN who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things.

Jesus is accusing them of killing him simply because they do not like or want to accept his teachings. Jesus clearly stated to them that he is a MAN who was telling them the truth that he heard from GOD. NOT THAT HE IS GOD!!!!!!!!

The Jews were so desperate to convict Jesus of death. They tried everything…

Mark 14:55-63

55 The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death, but they did not find any. 56 Many testified falsely against him, but their statements did not agree. 57 Then some stood up and gave this false testimony against him: 58 “We heard him say, ‘I will destroy this temple made with human hands and in three days will build another, not made with hands.’ ” 59 Yet even then their testimony did not agree. 60 Then the high priest stood up before them and asked Jesus, “Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?” 61 But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer. Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” 62 “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” 63 The high priest tore his clothes. “Why do we need any more witnesses?” he asked. 64 “You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?”

You can see that they were so desperate that they had to get false witnesses to testify against Jesus. But that didn’t even work. Then when Jesus said that he is God’s son they went crazy and accused him of blasphemy out of sheer desperation to have him killed. But I already quoted Jesus in John 10:31-39 in how he defends himself against this accusation and how he shows the misunderstanding that the Jews had of scripture. 

 

Even today Christians admit that the Jews misunderstood certain parts of scripture…

Shabir is basing his case on the (mis)understanding of the Jews that three figures were expected to come, and that Christ and the Prophet were two distinct individuals. (Sam Shamoun, More Evidence of Shabir’s Inconsistency: An Analysis of Shabir Ally’s debate with Dr. Anis Shorrosh, Source)

 

Sam over here argues that the Jews could possibly misunderstand scripture. So isn’t it possible that the Jews misunderstood what Jesus was trying to say? 

 

Conclusion

Nowhere does Jesus commit blasphemy. This was only a sheer desperation by the Jews at the time to have any excuse for Jesus to be killed. They did not understand scripture properly and we clearly saw Jesus rebuking them for that. So this argument of accusations of blasphemy against Jesus proving Jesus made blasphemous claims sinks down to the seabed where it belongs.

God is Greater than the Holy Spirit?

 

Sami Zaatari

 

 

 

As we all know Trinitarian Christians believe that the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all God.

 

One verse that we Muslims have shown to debunk the notion that Jesus is God is that of John 10:29 which reads as follows:

 

My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.

 

So as you can see Jesus states the Father is greater than all. Now this verse proves Jesus is not God since how can he be God if the Father is greater than him? The obvious answer is that he can’t. Since Christians know this is a problem they have come up with a nice answer saying that yes the Father is greater than the MAN Jesus, and not the divine Jesus.

 

This is a very nice answer with one major problem, Jesus never said anything about having a man and divine nature, Christians invented such a doctrine up to get rid of such problems! When Jesus is ignorant, they say it’s the man Jesus, when he prays; it’s the man Jesus and so on. Yet I repeat Jesus never said I have dual natures, this is a fabricated doctrine.

 

Now having said all that, what about the Holy Spirit? Notice the passage says that the Father is greater than ALL, this must include the Holy Spirit. Now unlike Jesus the Holy Spirit never supposedly took on a man nature and gave up on it’s divine nature, the Holy Spirit always remained as it is.

 

So therefore we have a clear verse that now states that the Father is GREATER than the Holy Spirit, and I ask how can that be if the Holy Spirit is God? The answer is simple, it can’t! The fact is is that the Holy Spirit is NOT God which is why the Father is greater than it, and the same goes for Jesus.

 

Neither Jesus nor the Holy Spirit are God which is precisely why the Father is greater than both of them, and why both of them are never called greater than the Father.

 

No Trinity I’m afraid.

 

And Allah Knows Best!

Is Trinity Like “The Time”?!

By Sami Zaatari

In this article will continue to refute some more common analogies brought up to make sense of the Trinity, many Muslims may have fell for these deceptive analogies in the past, but when one really looks carefully at the analogy and what Trinity is one will then see the analogies are a distortion of what Trinity is and what Trinitarians actually believes in.

 

Let us now move on to some of Christians’ analogies:

 

Time is past, present, and future. There are not three times

 

RESPONSE

That is true, but is that Trinity? What this Christian does not tell the reader is that time is MADE UP OF past, present, and future. The past alone is not time, nor is the present alone, time is made up these 3 separate time frames.

 

However so, Christians say that Jesus IS God, they say that the Father IS God, we however do not say that the past IS time, we say the past is PART OF TIME.

 

Christians never ever say that Jesus is simply part of God, if you ask any Christian is Jesus God, they will not reply by saying ‘No Jesus is part of God’ rather they will respond by saying ‘Yes Jesus is God’.

 

Christians’ analogy would only work had Trinitarians gone around saying Jesus is part of God, that the Father is part of God, and that the Holy Spirit is part of God. Rather Christians say Jesus IS God, the Father IS God and so on, and since Jesus is not the Father and the Father is not Jesus, what you have is two Gods!

 

So yes this Christian is correct, we do not have three times but one time, since the past alone is not time, nor is the present alone time, rather the past present and future MAKE UP TIME. Does this Christian say that Jesus alone is not God? By that I mean does this Christian or any other Christian say that the person Jesus is not God? Do they say he is PART OF God or do they say he IS God?  

 

No Christian would ever dare say that Jesus the individual person is not God, but rather he is part of/makes up God, they would never dare say such a thing and in fact no Christian ever does! For proof of this go ask any Christian is Jesus God? See what their response is, see whether they say that yes Jesus is God, or no Jesus is part of God.

 

If Trinitarians such as this Christian believe in these analogies, then they should stop claiming that Jesus IS God, and they should stop responding to Muslim inquiries by saying yes Jesus IS God, they should rather start saying Jesus makes up God and is part of God. Sadly I do not think any Christians will use this approach since they know it is damaging and hurts them.

 

 

I rest my case, it is three Gods!

 

And Allah Knows Best!

Jesus said:”I and My Father are One”..Why do Christians quote this verse?

By Sami Zaatari

Often when debates come up with Christians on the divinity of Christ, the passage from chapter ten in the book of John comes up; this passage is verse 30, which basically reads:

 

30 I and my Father are one

 Now I don’t understand why many Christians would quote this verse, specifically Trinitarians, because what does this verse prove? Trinitarians do not believe Jesus is the Father, so why do they quote it? Are they quoting it to try and show that Jesus is equal to the Father? Well that isn’t true, since the Gospel of John shows the opposite, in fact if we quote one verse back we read:

 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.

This is verse 29, it comes right before verse 30, and in verse 29 Jesus says the Father is greater than ALL, this obviously includes Jesus since he is not the Father. So therefore how Christians try and assume that this verse shows equality between Jesus and the Father is beyond me.

 In fact this is not the first time that Jesus says the Father is greater than him, he does it again later:

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I (John 14:28)

So here we once again have Jesus claiming the Father is greater than him, so how is Jesus equal to the Father when Jesus says the contrary? Now Christians have come up with a way of trying to explain this verse off, they say that Jesus was talking as a man here, that as a man the Father is greater than him, they try and say that the Father meant he is greater than Jesus in rank and authority and not in essence.

However so what did Jesus mean in John 10 when Jesus said the Father is greater than ALL? Jesus placed himself in the category of ALL people, so therefore the Christian response will not work for John 10:29. It must be said though that the Christian response does not work for John chapter 14:28 neither, because the Christian argues from silence and is arguing something they have yet to prove. Christians cannot prove that Jesus has 2 natures, they can never get a single quote from the lips of Jesus saying I am man and Divine, that I have 2 natures and I gave one up and took on the man nature, this is non-existent, so therefore the response is from silence provided with no proof or a solid basis.

 1-The fact is that the Bible shows that the Father is greater than Jesus in essence, the Father is all-knowing and Jesus is not.

 2-The Father gives Jesus everything from miracle to doctrine.

 3-Jesus begs the Father to save him, obviously showing that life and death is controlled by the Father and NOT Jesus. 

 For all these arguments the Christian will say as man Jesus is not all-knowing, as man Jesus receives things from the Father, however so I will kindly ask the Christian bring this proof from the words of Jesus, they shall never be able to do it, this doctrine is an invention and not something to be found from Jesus.

So therefore in conclusion, John 10:30 proves nothing in support of the divinity of Jesus, it does not show equality, since Jesus made it clear that the Father is greater than him, so therefore Jesus is not equal with the Father.

And Jesus was a prophet of God and Allah knows Best!

Does the Father call Jesus God?

By Sami Zaatari

Muslims constantly ask Christians to show us where Jesus explicitly said he is God, something they have never been able to show us.

 

On top of this Muslims sometimes ask where the Father calls Jesus God, because if Jesus didn’t call himself God, well at least the Father would. Well for this second questions many Christians DO quote a passage where the Father supposedly calls Jesus God. This passage comes from Hebrews chapter one verse eight.

 

Before quoting the verse it must be said that Hebrews was written after Jesus, and it was a teaching made after Jesus. In fact no one even knows who wrote Hebrews! So by these facts alone I could simply ignore Hebrews since it is really a waste of my time.

 

Let us now quote Hebrews chapter one verse 8 which reads:

 

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

 

So therefore Christians will use this verse and say here the Father calls Jesus the Son God.

 

Now the first thing every person should know is that in the Bible the word God is used differently than in the English language. In the English language whenever God is used it primarily refers to the one true and all powerful God. Yet this is not the case when it comes to the Greek, and Hebrew language. The word God in Greek is called theos, we find this EXACT word being used and applied to satan in 2 Corinthians chapter four verse 4, which reads:

 

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not

 

So satan himself is called theos, God, in the Bible.

 

So therefore how do we now know whether Jesus in Hebrews 1:8 is called a God, or a god. Notice the difference, one is capital G, and one is not capital G. when the text says God this refers to the true and all mighty God, when the text says god it refers to a mighty righteous servant of God, a king, a prophet, or a Messiah. It must also be said that there is no such thing as capital G or small g in the Greek language, the way they determine how the word theos is applied is based on the context.

 

So therefore is Jesus the God in Hebrews 1:8, or a god? Well let us do what the Greeks would do, and that is look at the context. Once we look at the context we find that it shows that Jesus is a god, not THE GOD.

 

In fact the proof comes in verse 9, right after verse 8! Let us quote Hebrews chapter from verse 8 to 9, and it reads:

 

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.  9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, EVEN THY GOD, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Hebrews 1:8-9)

 

Notice in verse 9 the text EXPLICITLY says that Jesus has a God! The text says that Jesus has a God, and that God has anointed Jesus above other people! So therefore we can clearly see that the context indisputably show that in Hebrews 1:8 Jesus is a god, not THE GOD.

 

So therefore an accurate translation of Hebrews 1:8 should read like this:

 

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, o god, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 

 

It should be a small g, not a capital G to give the false impression that Jesus is called the mighty and true all powerful God. How can Jesus the all mighty God have a God who anoints him?! This only makes sense if Jesus is a god, which means a righteous servant of God, a prophet, a king, and the Messiah.

 

In fact Scholar Andrew Norton who himself is a Christian writes this in his book “Statement of Reasons”:

 

Here the context proves that the word “God” does not denote the Supreme Being, but is used in an inferior sense. This is admitted by some of the most respectable Trinitarian critics. Thus, the Rev. Dr. Mayer remarks: “Here the Son is addressed by the title God: but the context shows that it is an official title which designates him as a king: he has a kingdom, a throne and a scepter; and in verse 9 he is compared with other kings, who are called his fellows; but God can have no fellows. As the Son, therefore, he is classed with the kings of the earth, and his superiority over them consists in this, that he is anointed with the oil of gladness above them; inasmuch as their thrones are temporary, but his shall be everlasting.”

 

So therefore in conclusion the Trinitarian Christian still fails, the Father never called Jesus God, and Jesus never said he is God, so therefore why do you say he is God?!

 

Here is what Jesus will say, as the Quran tells us in Surah chapter five verse 116:

 

005.116
YUSUFALI: And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah’?” He will say: “Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.

 

Indeed this is the truth, Jesus never made such a claim, and as he says in the Quran, never could he say such a thing. Jesus is a prophet of God, the Messiah, and he knows he would never have the right to say I am God worship me, and this is why this verse doesn’t even exist within the Bible.

 

Therefore Trinitarians come to the truth, and accept Jesus for what he truly is, a prophet and messiah, not God!

 

And Allah Knows Best!

Because God was his “Father”?!

Is Jesus (pbuh) a divine son of God because he called God “Father”? Well, how do all Christians refer to Him? What does Jesus himself have to tell us in this regard? Let us read

“That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven…”

Matthew 5:45

and “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”

Matthew 5:48:

…etc.

There are countless verses in the Bible to this effect. To understand what is meant by the reference to “Father” we need only read John 8:42:

“Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.”

So the love of God and His prophets is what makes God someone’s “father.” Similarly,

“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.”

John 8:44

Obviously neither the Devil nor God is the physical father of any of them. The term “Father” in that day and age was used by the Jews in the same sense that Christians use the word “father” today to address a priest. It was not meant to be taken literally. Otherwise, the Bible would bear witness that every believer in Jesus (pbuh) is also the “physical” son of God.

Further, please note that Joseph is called a “father” to Pharaoh in Genesis 45:8, and Job is called the “father” of the poor in Job 29:16. Once we read all of this we begin to understand how the Jews used to understand the reference to God Almighty as “Father.”

and God knows best..

Posted in Jesus. Tags: , . Leave a Comment »