The Biblical God As a Deceiver !!

You won’t hear enough of Christian missionaries arguing that the Qur’an describes Allah as plotting and deceiving (refer here), Then they conclude that Allah should not be worshiped because of these verses !!

But first let us refute their argument :

First of all, What is wrong with God deceiving EVILDOERS? Deceiving those DECEIVERS? Read the verse and see whom God deceived.  

“And when those who misbelieve were crafty with thee to detain thee a prisoner, or kill thee, or drive thee forth; they were crafty, but God was crafty too, for God is best of crafty ones!

You cannot compare God to those evildoers. Because those evildoers are deceiving innocent people, while God is deceiving those evil doers in order to stop their evil plots.

It’s like me saying that there are people who murder and kill people. These are bad people. However, can we also call God a blood thirsty murderer for taking the souls of people by sending natural disasters or by allowing people to get brutally murdered? Of course not. You can’t compare. You cannot question God.

So again, What is wrong with God deceiving EVILDOERS? Of course, Nothing is wrong .

But now let us return them the favor and show how the god of the Bible is a deceiver, thus by the Christian missionary criteria the Biblical God  should not be worshipped either.

 

We read in…

Jeremiah 4:10

Then I said, “Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived (nasha) this people and Jerusalem by saying, ‘You will have peace,’ when the sword is at our throats.”  

 

The word for deceived here is nasha, which means…

 

 1) to beguile, deceive

    a) (Niphal) to be beguiled

    b) (Hiphil) to beguile, deceive

     c) (Qal) utterly (infinitive)

Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/5/1144094423-2544.html

 

 

John Gill states in his commentary…

surely thou hast greatly deceived this people and Jerusalem:
what the false prophets did, that God is said to do, because he suffered them to deceive the people; (John Gill, The New John Gill Exposition of the Entire Bible, Commentary on Jeremiah 4:10,
Source)

 

The New Bible commentary states…

Jeremiah is not indifferent to the message, which he is called to preach. In v 10 a note is struck to which he will return in relation to himself (15:18). In his distress he accuses the Lord of having deceived the people, presumably by having allowed false prophets to convince them with a message of peace (cf. 6:13-14). The only reply is the Lord’s own confirmation that judgment is sure. (New Bible Commentary)

 

Even though it was really the false prophets who did the act of deception, the Bible is actually shifting the blame to God for actually allowing the false prophets to do the deception. This is what the “inspired” author Jeremiah said and this is what we got to accept. God deceived innocent people.

 

It seemed that people were so bothered with Jeremiah’s ascription of deception to God that they had to reword the sentence so that deception is ascribed to the false prophets instead.

 

 

Ah, Lord God! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people
The Targum paraphrases this verse thus: “And I said, Receive my supplication, O Lord God; for, behold, the false prophets deceive this people and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Ye shall have peace.” The prophet could not reconcile this devastation of the country with the promises already made; and he appears to ask the question, Hast thou not then deceived this people in saying there shall be peace, i.e., prosperity? (Adam Clarke, The Adam Clarke Commentary, Commentary on Jeremiah 4:10,
Source)

 

 

We have it in…

 

1 Kings 22:20-22

20 And the LORD said, ‘Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?’
      “One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    22 ” ‘By what means?’ the LORD asked.
      ” ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,’ he said.
      ” ‘You will succeed in enticing him,’ said the LORD. ‘Go and do it.’

 

Here we see that the man said that he would resort to lying in order to entice Ahab and God supported the idea and told him to go ahead and do it! 

 

I personally have no moral objections to this since I believe God could at times use means of deception in order to ensure the greater good and to use deception against evil. However, Christians don’t allow this when we talk about Allah deceiving evildoers in the Qur’an. These are double standards.

 

 

We even have it in…

 

Ezekiel 14:9-11

9 ” ‘And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel. 10 They will bear their guilt-the prophet will be as guilty as the one who consults him. 11 Then the people of Israel will no longer stray from me, nor will they defile themselves anymore with all their sins. They will be my people, and I will be their God, declares the Sovereign LORD.’ “

 

God is punishing him for a crime that He enticed him to do in the first place? Isn’t that entrapment?

 

 

Another passage…

 

Isaiah 37:6-7

Isaiah said to them, “Tell your master, ‘This is what the LORD says: Do not be afraid of what you have heard-those words with which the underlings of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me. Listen! I am going to put a spirit in him so that when he hears a certain report, he will return to his own country, and there I will have him cut down with the sword.’ “

 

God had that spirit spread a rumor so that the King of Assyria can to return to his homeland. In short, that spirit’s purpose was for deception.

 

Another example from the Bible…

 

Isaiah 19:14

The LORD has poured into them a spirit of dizziness; they make Egypt stagger in all that she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit.

 

Here we see God deceiving people to the extent that they become absolutely foolish.

 

Even though I don’t believe the Gospels teach that Jesus taught he was God, however this example is for those who believe that Jesus is God. Jesus admits that he was speaking figuratively all this time…

 

John 16:25

25″Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father.

 

The word paroimia could mean…

 

1) a saying out of the usual course or deviating from the usual manner of speaking

a) a current or trite saying, a proverb

2) any dark saying which shadows forth some didactic truth

a) esp. a symbolic or figurative saying

b) speech or discourse in which a thing is illustrated by the use of similes and comparisons

c) an allegory

1) extended and elaborate metaphor

Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/3/1146511128-5176.html

 

Why wasn’t Jesus speaking in a normal and clear way all the time? Why did Jesus then go and say that he won’t ‘use this kind of language’?

 

Well, here we find out why…

 

Mark 4:10-12

10When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12so that,” ‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’

 

 

So here we see that Jesus was deceiving certain people by speaking in parables so that they won’t (and God forbid!) REPENT AND BE FORGIVEN!

 

Also in…

 

2 Thessalonians 2:11

11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie

 

So God will delude people so that they can believe lies?

 

 

 

Now Christians would argue back and ask us Muslims to understand the context and reasons why God did such a thing. However, when we tell Christians to do the same thing when it comes to analyzing certain Qur’anic verses they don’t want to do it. So why should us Muslims?

 

And God knows best..

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The Language of the Bible

Christians are fond of claiming the Quran uses some bad language which they deem offensive and un-Godly. In this article we shall turn the table on the Christian by quoting some nasty language found in the  Bible.

Malachi 2

1 And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.  2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.  3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it


Ezekiel 4:9-12:

9 Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread thereof, according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon thy side, three hundred and ninety days shalt thou eat thereof.  10 And thy meat which thou shalt eat shall be by weight, twenty shekels a day: from time to time shalt thou eat it.  11 Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.  12 And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight


2 Kings 18:27

27 But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?


 Job 20:7

7 Yet he shall perish for ever like his own dung: they which have seen him shall say, Where is he?

That’s enough dung for me!

Friendship in Christianity

Sami Zaatari

 

 

 

Some Christians always love to claim that the Quran forbids Muslims from befriending non-Muslims. After they make this claim they conclude that this proves that Islam is a bad religion, and is not peaceful.

 

For starters let us ASSUME that Islam prohibits the befriending of non-Muslims, how does that make Islam violent and non-peaceful? I personally choose to not associate myself with several people; does that make me evil or violent? I really don’t understand where these Christians get these strange ideas from!

 

Another point is why are these Christians so eager to befriend us Muslims? It is as if their feelings are hurt that we aren’t (supposedly) allowed to be their friends! Yet why do they so badly want to befriend us? We are the same people whom they label as Muhammadens, rag heads, sang niggers, and oh yes the newest label on the block ‘Terrorists’.

 

It’s very amusing I must say, the very same Christians who demonize Muslims 24/7, are the same Christians who will cry foul when the Quran (supposedly) prohibits Muslims from befriending them!

 

Now after all this you would THINK that according to Christianity and the Bible that befriending non-believers is not forbidden. Christians have been so eager to argue against the Quran (supposedly) prohibiting friendship to non-Muslims that they have forgotten about what their own Bible says concerning this topic!

 

So what does the Holy Bible have to say about friendships and marriage with non-Believers? Let us let the Holy New Testament do the talking:

 

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? … Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord.” — 2 Cor.6:14-17

 

Does this verse sound like friendship to you? Here we see the New Testament strictly FORBIDDING Christians from having friendship and marriage with none-believers!

 

So let us now see if our Christian ‘friends’ will be consistent, or will they show themselves to be filled with double standards. Will Christians now ADMIT that their faith is violent, and not peaceful?

Remember it is CHRISTIANS who always claim that Islam is not a religion of peace due to it (supposedly) prohibiting Muslims from befriending non-Muslims. We have now seen the same thing in Christianity from the New Testament, so will they apply the same judgment on their own faith?

 

There is really nothing more to say but a last piece of advice to Christian Islamophobes, don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house.

 

And Allah Knows Best!