Does the Father call Jesus God?

By Sami Zaatari

Muslims constantly ask Christians to show us where Jesus explicitly said he is God, something they have never been able to show us.

 

On top of this Muslims sometimes ask where the Father calls Jesus God, because if Jesus didn’t call himself God, well at least the Father would. Well for this second questions many Christians DO quote a passage where the Father supposedly calls Jesus God. This passage comes from Hebrews chapter one verse eight.

 

Before quoting the verse it must be said that Hebrews was written after Jesus, and it was a teaching made after Jesus. In fact no one even knows who wrote Hebrews! So by these facts alone I could simply ignore Hebrews since it is really a waste of my time.

 

Let us now quote Hebrews chapter one verse 8 which reads:

 

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

 

So therefore Christians will use this verse and say here the Father calls Jesus the Son God.

 

Now the first thing every person should know is that in the Bible the word God is used differently than in the English language. In the English language whenever God is used it primarily refers to the one true and all powerful God. Yet this is not the case when it comes to the Greek, and Hebrew language. The word God in Greek is called theos, we find this EXACT word being used and applied to satan in 2 Corinthians chapter four verse 4, which reads:

 

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not

 

So satan himself is called theos, God, in the Bible.

 

So therefore how do we now know whether Jesus in Hebrews 1:8 is called a God, or a god. Notice the difference, one is capital G, and one is not capital G. when the text says God this refers to the true and all mighty God, when the text says god it refers to a mighty righteous servant of God, a king, a prophet, or a Messiah. It must also be said that there is no such thing as capital G or small g in the Greek language, the way they determine how the word theos is applied is based on the context.

 

So therefore is Jesus the God in Hebrews 1:8, or a god? Well let us do what the Greeks would do, and that is look at the context. Once we look at the context we find that it shows that Jesus is a god, not THE GOD.

 

In fact the proof comes in verse 9, right after verse 8! Let us quote Hebrews chapter from verse 8 to 9, and it reads:

 

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.  9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, EVEN THY GOD, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Hebrews 1:8-9)

 

Notice in verse 9 the text EXPLICITLY says that Jesus has a God! The text says that Jesus has a God, and that God has anointed Jesus above other people! So therefore we can clearly see that the context indisputably show that in Hebrews 1:8 Jesus is a god, not THE GOD.

 

So therefore an accurate translation of Hebrews 1:8 should read like this:

 

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, o god, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 

 

It should be a small g, not a capital G to give the false impression that Jesus is called the mighty and true all powerful God. How can Jesus the all mighty God have a God who anoints him?! This only makes sense if Jesus is a god, which means a righteous servant of God, a prophet, a king, and the Messiah.

 

In fact Scholar Andrew Norton who himself is a Christian writes this in his book “Statement of Reasons”:

 

Here the context proves that the word “God” does not denote the Supreme Being, but is used in an inferior sense. This is admitted by some of the most respectable Trinitarian critics. Thus, the Rev. Dr. Mayer remarks: “Here the Son is addressed by the title God: but the context shows that it is an official title which designates him as a king: he has a kingdom, a throne and a scepter; and in verse 9 he is compared with other kings, who are called his fellows; but God can have no fellows. As the Son, therefore, he is classed with the kings of the earth, and his superiority over them consists in this, that he is anointed with the oil of gladness above them; inasmuch as their thrones are temporary, but his shall be everlasting.”

 

So therefore in conclusion the Trinitarian Christian still fails, the Father never called Jesus God, and Jesus never said he is God, so therefore why do you say he is God?!

 

Here is what Jesus will say, as the Quran tells us in Surah chapter five verse 116:

 

005.116
YUSUFALI: And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah’?” He will say: “Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.

 

Indeed this is the truth, Jesus never made such a claim, and as he says in the Quran, never could he say such a thing. Jesus is a prophet of God, the Messiah, and he knows he would never have the right to say I am God worship me, and this is why this verse doesn’t even exist within the Bible.

 

Therefore Trinitarians come to the truth, and accept Jesus for what he truly is, a prophet and messiah, not God!

 

And Allah Knows Best!

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One Response to “Does the Father call Jesus God?”

  1. TroyG Says:

    He accepted Thomas’ worship – Thomas’ exclamation was not, as I said on that particular post, an exclamation of astonishment.

    You’re arguing from what makes sense to you. Isn’t it possible that although you don’t understand something, it can still be true? Relativity and quantum physics for example.

    Jesus, from and after he became human, was both God and human. As human, he was to live a perfect life, which means dependence on God. So although He was deity, he refused to use his right and power to get what He wanted. So the Father was Jesus’ God, in Jesus’ humanity.

    Jesus cry from the cross was a quote of Psalm 22:1. God’s punishment for sin is separation from Himself. So Jesus, the God-man, died. How it worked exactly, who knows? But it’s irrational to reject something merely because you don’t understand it, if the evidence is there to prove it is so.

    As for not being voluntary, read John 10 “No one takes my life from me” etc, and the Garden of Gethsemane “Not my will but yours be done”. Jesus, as the perfect man – that is, totally dependent on the word of God (what we now call the Old Testament) – chose to obey his God and Father, even though it meant death for him.

    And as I mentioned before somewhere else, the Hebrew word for one “echad” can mean composite unity – “one flesh”, “one bunch” – so it does allow for a Trinity.


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